12 comments to “A Brave New World of Firepower Since the 2nd Amendment”

  1. Scott Hermann

    “I grew up with guns. Where I come from nearly everyone did. That said, I can state with knowledge and certainty that anyone outside of law enforcement claiming to “need” a pistol or rifle with a magazine capacity exceeding six rounds, or a shotgun exceeding three rounds for the purpose of hunting or self-protection or both, is either too incompetent with firearms to own them or has other reasons for wanting them.”

    Its always interesting to read someone’s opinion on what’s best for others to own. Or what minimal requirements are sufficient in order to stop a deadly threat. Everyone has an opinion i guess, but that doesn’t equate to every opinion having value. Aside from ‘growing’ up with guns, I’m left with wondering what expertise the author has with regards to the use of firearms in self-defense? I would bet the author has no formal training and no expertise.

    Expertise is something sadly lacking in the debate. We demand it in all other areas, yet with guns we hardly ever hear from professionals. I’ve had a lot of formal training both with highly trained law enforcement and with professionals who train civilians. Virtually none share the same views, or would advise a person in the same way as the author. He should stop, get some formalized training, and stop giving bad advice that is all but worthless. Frankly, if one followed such advice, the risk of bodily harm would be far greater. He ought to be ashamed for himself as his advice would get innocent people killed.

    Police moved from revolver to automatics with large capacity magazines for a good reason. Police evolved from using shotguns to the AR also for good reason. Reliable, more efficient, and more likely to save one’s life. Along with that evolution, civilians also followed the trend. And for the same good reasons.

    Just a reality check for the author.
    1. Life isn’t the movies. Its not uncommon for a criminal to be shot multiple times, run away and drive themselves to the hospital, and survive the encounter. Criminals stop from blood loss, and/or if they are stopped by a shot to the cranial ocular cavity and/or a center mass hit.
    2. Shooting a moving target is hard. Especially when being shot at. The police miss all the time using high capacity magazines, yet somehow a homeowner caught by surprise is to be a better shot with only 5-6 at his/her disposal. As if grandma, someone handicapped, or someone weaker is just going to rise to the situation.

    “Let’s limit assault weapons with high-capacity magazines to law enforcement.” – I don’t think you quite understand the situation here. You have no power to obtain these things, and therefore making demands is counter productive. Your side largely lost by souring the pot introducing both of these notions. Coupled with the obvious disdain you have with those who use firearms for recreation in a variety of venues non related to self-defense and hunting (skeet, trap, IPDA, IPSC, 3-gun, silhouette shooting, vintage rifle, service rifle, high power, mounted shooting, cowboy action, just to name a few). You can’t possibly wonder why your side lost.

  2. Jan Brennan

    Right On to the author for having the courage to state the common sense approach of limiting firepower. So many gun FANATICS above, crazed that ANY limits means taking away all weapons – what nonsense! And to some that claim it’s only cosmetic & easy to get & make large capacity magazines & turn their weapons into military assault style & that there are so many of these weapons & ammo already in circulation, then why are they soooo worried about limiting this? Why do we want to limit a nuclear arms race in the Middle East but its ok to have an unlimited military assault weapons & ammo race in our own country??

  3. John

    It’s obvious Mr. Dean is a product of the public indoctrination er uh school system. He has no clue as to the intentions of the founding fathers!

  4. Stanley M. Dillon

    I pretty much agree with the author. Sure, canons were legal, but difficult to manuever. And yes, the founders did not envision a keyboard or many other technologic changes. And we now know that the second amendment was about arming militias. That being said, the consitution is a “living document” and does change with the times and the courts interpretations. Bottom line is that the 2nd amendment has morphed into the right for citizens to own arms. But there has to be some common sense as to arms we are allowed to own. That police who are protecting us are outgunned by citizens with military issue weapons is outrageous.

  5. bob

    The founding fathers point was that American citizens should be able to defend themselves against criminals or tyranny… period. You can read some of their thoughts below. I think you are getting hung up on numbers/ballistics when we all know what the left really wants and that is to disarm everyone regardless of weapon capabilities. School shootings are a terrible tradgedy, as are people killed by drunk drivers, planes being taken over and run into buildings – but the fact remains that they happen when people abuse their rights and disobey laws in our country. I believe the founding fathers spent much time considering their words in this document and I as an American think they should be honored. How many people are killed each year with cars, have we outlawed them?, knives ?, alcohol? Oh and it doesnt take assault rifles to attack schools – the deranged will use whatever they can get their hands on ie – cars/bombs
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

    “A free people ought to be armed.”
    – George Washington

    “A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.”
    – George Washington

    “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
    – Benjamin Franklin

    “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.”
    – Thomas Jefferson

    “I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.”
    – Thomas Jefferson

    “The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
    – Thomas Jefferson (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria)

    “A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks.” – Thomas Jefferson

    “The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.”
    – Thomas Jefferson

    “On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed.”
    – Thomas Jefferson

    “I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence … I think that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy.”
    – Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778

    “Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion in private self defense.”
    – John Adams

    “To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them.”
    – George Mason

    “I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians.”
    – George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

    “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe.”
    – Noah Webster

    “The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops.”
    – Noah Webster

    “A government resting on the minority is an aristocracy, not a Republic, and could not be safe with a numerical and physical force against it, without a standing army, an enslaved press and a disarmed populace.”
    – James Madison

    “Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.”
    – James Madison

    “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country.”
    – James Madison

    “The ultimate authority resides in the people alone.”
    – James Madison

    “Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.”
    – William Pitt

    “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”
    – Richard Henry Lee

    “A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves … and include all men capable of bearing arms.”
    – Richard Henry Lee

    “Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined…. The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun.”
    – Patrick Henry

    “This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty…. The right of self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction.”
    – St. George Tucker

    “… arms … discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property…. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived the use of them.”
    – Thomas Paine

    “The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.”
    – Samuel Adams

    “The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.”
    – Joseph Story

    “What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty …. Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins.”
    – Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts

    ” … for it is a truth, which the experience of all ages has attested, that the people are commonly most in danger when the means of insuring their rights are in the possession of those of whom they entertain the least suspicion.”
    – Alexander Hamilton

  6. Cletus

    Wrong, first off a gunman wouldn’t have walked into a room and just start shooting back in the 1790’s. Society wasn’t dysfunctional due to the destruction of the family unit. Also if you knew ANYTHING about history you would know that it was not uncommon for people to carry two, three even four pistols along with their rifle. They ALSO had very large knives.

    Stop blaming the weapons and start blaming the real problem and that is our social dysfunction as a nation. The liberals have work very hard to destroy the family unit. And the violence and lack of compassion we see in our youth is the wonderful result of the liberal agenda.

  7. Brenton Adams

    Wow, what a load of utter rubbish… The author is obviously ‘hiding’ behind the first amendment to spew this load of trash.

    If you dont want a gun, dont buy one. Or move to Chicago, Mexico or England. I am pretty sure they got rid of their guns and have really low crime rates too.

  8. Allan Harrison

    Run and hide hoplophobe. The founders never imagined a key board and a liberal being dangerous either, you should come to your senses and step away from the key board so no one will get hurt.

  9. ken

    One thing you forgot is the at the time of the constitutions drafting, citizens could own a cannon for defense. At the time, that was state of the art weaponry.

  10. Anonymous

    Your logic has one fatal mistake, banning something doesn’t mean it will go away. Alcohol was once banned, did it go away? No. Marijuana is currently banned and just about any high school kid can get you a bag in under 30 minutes. What makes you think it would be any different with “assault weapons”? Are all the millions of these so called “assault weapons” that are currently in circulation just going to disappear because you banned them? NO. Also, you do know that the features that distinguish what you call an “assault weapon” from any other semi-auto gun are mostly cosmetic, right? A rifle with no, “military features”, as you people like to call them, still fires at THE EXACT SAME RATE as any other semi-auto rifle. And as for the large magazines? Ban them all you want, there are currently MILLIONS of them in circulation that aren’t going away any time soon. It’s also quite easy to fashion your own large capacity magazines at home. And with the use of a 3d printer, literally ANYONE can make all the large capacity mags they want all day long without ever even leaving their house.

  11. Matthew

    A lot of people could kill a large number of people in a day, cannons were also arms.

    Besides that, the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with the right to bear arms. If you truly understood the history of the amendment you would know that. But I guess it’s better to just keep telling the same lies and misconceptions so that you make yourself look good and solid.

    The right to bear arms is a right. A Right is defined as…
    The standard of permitted or forbidden action within a certain sphere; The Legal Ethical and Moral Title or claim to the possession of property or authority; That which we have a personal obligation; The title to something properly possessed by a person; What one may properly claim, one’s due.

    A Title is defined as…
    To Designate by a certain name – to describe, term, style, name, and call and action, or property.

    A privilege is defined as…
    A special right granted to a person or people which otherwise would be disallowed or illegal.

    We, The People, individually, and separately, own the right to bear arms. It belongs to us. How it is defined is OUR call, not the governments, not the Supreme Court, and certainly not a newshack like you. We define the entire sphere of the right, and what it does and does not contain.

    We sent (all/separately) a delegation to our state capitols, and we as a people wrote the second amendment, we penned it as clearly as we could, so that we added another layer of protection between us, and the government that no-one trusted and still do not trust to this day. We added the second amendment, we wrote it, and I can assure you that just because we added a preamble that said militias – it was because we were afraid that the government would become stronger than the states and walk on us. James Madison may have helped pen the wording, but never doubt that the amendment was written by US.

    That amendment passed the test to be added to the Constitution, along with the rest of the restrictions we placed on the federal government, and just because some newspaper writer thinks that he can help the government bypass the limits we placed on it, does NOT mean that we will not gather together again, if need be, and defend our right, and further restrict the government.

    So keep at it, keep attacking us, keep lying, and keep up the assaults and killings, and see what we do.

  12. Citizen John

    No mention above of School Resource Officers, from local Law Enforcement or a review of the treatment of the mentally ill. Our county has supplied armed officers in the school system for 30 years paid for with local property taxes. This has taken care of the safety of the children while dealing with other issues related to drugs, etc. The officer is a friend to the kids and oddly enough we don’t see any unruly or drunken parents at ball games. These mentally ill people mentioned above gravitate to areas where there are no guns, so I guess that they are not completely crazy, a ‘gun free’ zone works for them. Ben Franklin’s quote still works for me, “An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure”. As far as personal protection who can blame anyone for wanting to defend themselves from a well armed gang of rapists, burglars, etc. Joe Biden’s recommendation to shoot a shotgun into the night must keep the Secret Service on their toes dodging behind trees every time the door or window opens in the “big house”. Joe follows every stupid statement with an even more stupid one. Joe wants your wife down to two rounds and then fire them at some sound in the bushes and then she has no rounds as well as possibly shooting some kids playing after dark. This is about CONTROL NOT GUN CONTROL. It’s about the incremental loss of our freedoms. Once they have the magazines they will want the guns or the ammunition. If you want to give up your freedom please go ahead, but don’t expect to take my freedom and my families protection away. Sam Colt was the first feminists and didn’t know it, he made the weaker sex equal as well as the older folks who become targets of criminals.
    Jump on some other issue, Liberals

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